Comments on: The long and winding Road to Surfdom http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/ Reflections on social democracy, economics, the media, and spin in an age of incorrigible cynicism. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:15:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Guy http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3726 Guy Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:57:30 +0000 http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3726 Yeah, I think you're right there Niall - there is such thing as a healthy symbiosis between the MSM and the blogosphere. Much depends on the nature of the relationship . The "who watches the watchers" question is just as valid and important a question as it has ever been, if not moreso. Yeah, I think you’re right there Niall - there is such thing as a healthy symbiosis between the MSM and the blogosphere. Much depends on the nature of the relationship . The “who watches the watchers” question is just as valid and important a question as it has ever been, if not moreso.

]]> By: Niall http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3725 Niall Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:44:32 +0000 http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3725 Symbiosis between the 'sphere and MSM is the main danger to blogging, per se. Providing blogging remains a watch-dog of the MSM, and not just another reiteration of it, then symbiosis has some validity. Of course, I do not regard, in any way, shape or form, the op-ed columnist as the bosses blogger to be blogging by any description. Symbiosis between the ’sphere and MSM is the main danger to blogging, per se. Providing blogging remains a watch-dog of the MSM, and not just another reiteration of it, then symbiosis has some validity. Of course, I do not regard, in any way, shape or form, the op-ed columnist as the bosses blogger to be blogging by any description.

]]> By: Guy http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3701 Guy Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:20:59 +0000 http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3701 Touche! Touche!

]]> By: Armagny http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3682 Armagny Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:08:53 +0000 http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3682 We'll come up with something Guy! You know where I think there's a gap... We’ll come up with something Guy! You know where I think there’s a gap…

]]> By: Guy http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3678 Guy Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:32:28 +0000 http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3678 Indeed - I think your points on discussion and fellow travellers align with what I am talking about. You're also right that there is a completely symbiotic relationship between blogs and the MSM. I am not sure this in itself is a bad thing, but on the other hand I do think we in the Australian political blogosphere probably riff on topics raised by the MSM a bit too much. Successful independent media outlets tend to set their own agenda rather than relying on other media outlets for oxygen. Indeed - I think your points on discussion and fellow travellers align with what I am talking about.

You’re also right that there is a completely symbiotic relationship between blogs and the MSM. I am not sure this in itself is a bad thing, but on the other hand I do think we in the Australian political blogosphere probably riff on topics raised by the MSM a bit too much. Successful independent media outlets tend to set their own agenda rather than relying on other media outlets for oxygen.

]]> By: Sans Blog http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3676 Sans Blog Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:57:02 +0000 http://guyberes.com/2008/11/06/the-long-and-winding-road-to-surfdom/#comment-3676 "Blogging is about discussion." Guy, I was a great fan of Blogocracy because it was all 'about discussion' by many people of many differing views. Since the demise of Blogocracy, I have been on a search for an equivalent and just haven't been able to find one. As I said once on LP and yesterday on RTS, they boring because the majority of comments are from fellow travellers and everyone is so jolly agreeable. The blog post is only a starting point no matter how good it is. Without a stimulating discussion tied to it with varying opinions it is the virtual equivalent of 'tomorrow's fish and chip wrapper'. I don't know what the answer although I'm sure it's not in the commercialisation of blogs, an immediate turn-off for me and goes against what I see the Internet as (for everything on the 'Net that costs money, there are tens or hundreds of free stuff that is as good or better). Despite the criticism of MSM on blogs, what blog doesn't feed of it? “Blogging is about discussion.”

Guy,

I was a great fan of Blogocracy because it was all ‘about discussion’ by many people of many differing views.

Since the demise of Blogocracy, I have been on a search for an equivalent and just haven’t been able to find one.

As I said once on LP and yesterday on RTS, they boring because the majority of comments are from fellow travellers and everyone is so jolly agreeable.

The blog post is only a starting point no matter how good it is. Without a stimulating discussion tied to it with varying opinions it is the virtual equivalent of ‘tomorrow’s fish and chip wrapper’.

I don’t know what the answer although I’m sure it’s not in the commercialisation of blogs, an immediate turn-off for me and goes against what I see the Internet as (for everything on the ‘Net that costs money, there are tens or hundreds of free stuff that is as good or better).

Despite the criticism of MSM on blogs, what blog doesn’t feed of it?

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